Maybe they are trying to make us more like those countries, where it’s cheaper to hire kids and make them work harder then hire someone who is not eassily exploited. Some employers and big corporation will exploit an employee if they get away with it. That’s why as corporation love “Business friendly states”
I have been aware of this. Actually, in the name of Libertarian Rand ideology some actually want ALL restrictions lifted. Worker safety, environmental standards, no unions, in spite of history filled with abuse they think no rules represent “freedom” and a thriving economy. This deluded utopian fantasy forgets history… It forgets why we have these laws today.
OMG! If this actually happen, America will be the laughing stock of the world. Was it America that push other nations to stop hiring children to do work?
The more shenanigans the republicans speak of what they want to do on the state and federal level, the more I want to distant myself from them.
It’s gotten to the point where I’m no longer surprised by anything they come up with. They don’t have to worry about accountability for anything they say or do because it can always get blamed on Obama or Liberals. It’s working great for the deficit they laid at our doorstep.
It is odd…that the people who elected a President that proposed “Hope & CHANGE” get all freaked out if any changes are even attempted.
You really think the end result would be little children carrying steel through a steel plant. Funny how the video ended when the response was being made.???
Let me just agree with you…as that is only what is acceptable here. What we’ve been doing has been working so well. They SHOULD NOT ALLOW kids to work…as it takes time away from other more important things. Like selling drugs on a corner, joining gangs and participating in flash mobs like what just took place at the Wisconsin State Fair. These are imptortant activities, and how dare anyone propose allowing a child to do something that might teach them work ethics and point them in the right direction.
You are a little late on this issue…the Daily Kos started this back in Feb 2011.
It’s like a litte family owned motel that I stayed at in Missouri a couple years ago. The owner complained in conversation about how he could not even hire his teenaged kids to change the sheets and clean the rooms, because of stupid laws. That was his words…”stupid laws.” Yes, he was a an immigrant…and he moved to a country where he thought he’d be free. Boy was he wrong.
Using my critical thinking…I must agree with you…kids should not be allowed to work…it takes too much time away from more important things. Like drinking, doing drugs and playing video games…and making sure they already have a long arrest record before they even reach adulthood.
We’ve tried it your way for many years. The Liberals insisted we not spank our kids, that we not allow them to work…and what has the end result been? Forget it…an honest response is too much to ask for. The point is, we’ve tried it the Liberal way, and it has ruined many lives. Look at how many people are in our prisons.
The Government needs to just pry themselves out of the asses of the American people and stick to defending the borders. Something they can’t do at this point…because they’re too busy making sure some kids doesn’t get a job working in a book store like I did when I was 12 years old.
If we deregulate child labor then those that want to cut the welfare, food stamps, and medicaid assistance to these children can just say “There’s nothing stopping you from working. Get off your ass and get a job.” when they reach the ripe old age of 12. Employers would then be able to undercut even the wages that they pay the illegal immigrants. I can see where some of the idiots in this country would see this as a win/win situation.
This attempt would fall upon the law of unintended consequences. There is no minimum age to belong to a union. Introduce these kids to the idea of higher pay, better benefits and shorter work weeks and days as well as paid vacations and holidays and then you would have the revival of labor unions in America.
No matter what these individual states attempt to pass or eventually pass, (the)Taft-Hartley Act and (the)Wagner AcAKA: National Labor Relations Act, will still trump the states laws and the National Guard (and the NLRB) would be the big stick. Since human labor in the United States of America is under the jurisdiction of the federal government under the Commerce Clause, (the) Keating-Owen Act and (the)Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) would also trump any state laws that enacted.
These laws being introduced are just ignorant politicians that did not pay attention in their civics lessons at the junior high school level. It is amazing that they got as far as they did in their careers—it only goes to show you that you can be stupid and still chase the American dream of lording it over the huddled masses yearning to be free…
John…That is one person, who is a total moron, making stupid statements about making changes in laws, that will never become a reality…You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it…And anyone who agrees with changing the laws is just as much a moron…This is a political campaign and nothing more…The Republicans do not want to take advantage of children, and it is pathetic to suggest that…I know of no one who is stupid enough to support this…So if you wish to speak of these idiots who are behind this, you have my support…If you try to suggest it is a Republican agenda, you are being as irrational as the idiots who want to make these changes…You cannot possibly believe Republicans would support this nonsense…We are not demons…
Women and Children in the Labor Force. Many new jobs for women were created during the Industrial Age. From 1880 to 1900 the number of employed women went from 2.6 to 8.6 million. In 1880 4% of clerical workers were women; by 1920 the figure was 50%, but women could not get management positions. Although middle class married women were able to stay at home, among the poor, women—and children—had to work. (Truant officers who patrolled factories to get children into school were thwarted by struggling parents who needed the extra income.) A state of quasi-slavery existed where parents bound children to work, but child labor would not be squarely addressed until the Progressive Era.
Unions were generally hostile to women; men believed women shouldn’t work for wages because they undercut wage levels. Some separate women’s unions did exist, and they sought special legislation for female workers, etc. The International Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union led a massive strike against New York City sweatshops. Union leaders came from the middle class and were not militant, but insistent. In the 19th century no special concern existed over children or women doing hard work—they had always worked within the family on farms or in family businesses. By 1890 18% of the labor force consisted of children between the ages of ten and fifteen.
Surely we can agree there is a huge difference between dozens or hundreds of little kids slaving away in factories or coal mines, (which obviously should never be tolerated) and the kind of kids who want to mow lawns after school and that kind of thing, no?
I quite frankly agree that it is the Republican agenda to return the United States to a time where corporations determine your lives. Who on earth could ever hire a child in so many different places
OK, so we already have a job shortage. From a purely economic standpoint, flooding the market with more potential workers who do not have any standard of minimum wage is only going to lessen the chances of adults with families to support getting a chance at a job.
And then there’s the morality of this.
They want America to be a third world country.
They keep attacking our rights and the progressive things America stands for, things she is admired for, the world wide! They think America is great because their buddies can get rich here, not because there is equal opportunity for all. Education, etc. I am shocked each day by how blatant they are in their attacks. They ran on the economy and then as soon as they got into power they made it about taking rights away from Americans. “They hate us for our freedoms.” Yes, indeed.
I am seriously thinking of objecting to calling these people either conservatives or Republicans, which used to mean stuffy, culturally unimaginative, not too venturesome, but basically not malignant towards fellow Americans – Dwight Eisenhower, say, or Chuck Hagel. A Joseph McCarthy was an exception.
What we have now is a pack of bodysnatchers that has taken possession of the former stuffed shirt wing. What do we call them? Dissocialists? Snotzis? In any case, it is wrong to let them impersonate what was once a respected segment of American politics, even if not always by you or me.
There is no rational reason for any thinking person to vote for the Party of No. Every day they say or do something that reveals their desire to reverse the progress that movements of the past have provided in order to level the playing field. If their shameful words and actions don’t motivate people to get out and vote them out of office at the first opportunity, I wonder what will.
The REAL reason they want to repeal child labor laws is so the Corps can come back, pay for legislation to also repeal any laws against minors not operating machinery, then fire all of the adult workers and hire kids in their place at the lowest possible wage and then say “See America!!! we brought the jobs back!!! told ya so!!”
Republicans have been going after workers rights for years. Look at the attack on unions, minimum wage laws and now child labor laws. My first question would be why this is so surprising to anybody??!!
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Maybe they are trying to make us more like those countries, where it’s cheaper to hire kids and make them work harder then hire someone who is not eassily exploited. Some employers and big corporation will exploit an employee if they get away with it. That’s why as corporation love “Business friendly states”
So they want to employ children at below minimum wage to do adult work during school hours? Is this Family Values?
I have been aware of this. Actually, in the name of Libertarian Rand ideology some actually want ALL restrictions lifted. Worker safety, environmental standards, no unions, in spite of history filled with abuse they think no rules represent “freedom” and a thriving economy. This deluded utopian fantasy forgets history… It forgets why we have these laws today.
OMG! If this actually happen, America will be the laughing stock of the world. Was it America that push other nations to stop hiring children to do work?
The more shenanigans the republicans speak of what they want to do on the state and federal level, the more I want to distant myself from them.
It’s gotten to the point where I’m no longer surprised by anything they come up with. They don’t have to worry about accountability for anything they say or do because it can always get blamed on Obama or Liberals. It’s working great for the deficit they laid at our doorstep.
It is odd…that the people who elected a President that proposed “Hope & CHANGE” get all freaked out if any changes are even attempted.
You really think the end result would be little children carrying steel through a steel plant. Funny how the video ended when the response was being made.???
Let me just agree with you…as that is only what is acceptable here. What we’ve been doing has been working so well. They SHOULD NOT ALLOW kids to work…as it takes time away from other more important things. Like selling drugs on a corner, joining gangs and participating in flash mobs like what just took place at the Wisconsin State Fair. These are imptortant activities, and how dare anyone propose allowing a child to do something that might teach them work ethics and point them in the right direction.
You are a little late on this issue…the Daily Kos started this back in Feb 2011.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/14/944565/-Now-Republicans-want-to-repeal-child-labor-laws
It’s like a litte family owned motel that I stayed at in Missouri a couple years ago. The owner complained in conversation about how he could not even hire his teenaged kids to change the sheets and clean the rooms, because of stupid laws. That was his words…”stupid laws.” Yes, he was a an immigrant…and he moved to a country where he thought he’d be free. Boy was he wrong.
Using my critical thinking…I must agree with you…kids should not be allowed to work…it takes too much time away from more important things. Like drinking, doing drugs and playing video games…and making sure they already have a long arrest record before they even reach adulthood.
We’ve tried it your way for many years. The Liberals insisted we not spank our kids, that we not allow them to work…and what has the end result been? Forget it…an honest response is too much to ask for. The point is, we’ve tried it the Liberal way, and it has ruined many lives. Look at how many people are in our prisons.
The Government needs to just pry themselves out of the asses of the American people and stick to defending the borders. Something they can’t do at this point…because they’re too busy making sure some kids doesn’t get a job working in a book store like I did when I was 12 years old.
If we deregulate child labor then those that want to cut the welfare, food stamps, and medicaid assistance to these children can just say “There’s nothing stopping you from working. Get off your ass and get a job.” when they reach the ripe old age of 12. Employers would then be able to undercut even the wages that they pay the illegal immigrants. I can see where some of the idiots in this country would see this as a win/win situation.
This attempt would fall upon the law of unintended consequences. There is no minimum age to belong to a union. Introduce these kids to the idea of higher pay, better benefits and shorter work weeks and days as well as paid vacations and holidays and then you would have the revival of labor unions in America.
No matter what these individual states attempt to pass or eventually pass, (the)Taft-Hartley Act and (the)Wagner AcAKA: National Labor Relations Act, will still trump the states laws and the National Guard (and the NLRB) would be the big stick. Since human labor in the United States of America is under the jurisdiction of the federal government under the Commerce Clause, (the) Keating-Owen Act and (the)Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) would also trump any state laws that enacted.
These laws being introduced are just ignorant politicians that did not pay attention in their civics lessons at the junior high school level. It is amazing that they got as far as they did in their careers—it only goes to show you that you can be stupid and still chase the American dream of lording it over the huddled masses yearning to be free…
John…That is one person, who is a total moron, making stupid statements about making changes in laws, that will never become a reality…You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it…And anyone who agrees with changing the laws is just as much a moron…This is a political campaign and nothing more…The Republicans do not want to take advantage of children, and it is pathetic to suggest that…I know of no one who is stupid enough to support this…So if you wish to speak of these idiots who are behind this, you have my support…If you try to suggest it is a Republican agenda, you are being as irrational as the idiots who want to make these changes…You cannot possibly believe Republicans would support this nonsense…We are not demons…
Some history…. http://www.academicamerican.com/recongildedage/topics/gildedage2.html
Women and Children in the Labor Force. Many new jobs for women were created during the Industrial Age. From 1880 to 1900 the number of employed women went from 2.6 to 8.6 million. In 1880 4% of clerical workers were women; by 1920 the figure was 50%, but women could not get management positions. Although middle class married women were able to stay at home, among the poor, women—and children—had to work. (Truant officers who patrolled factories to get children into school were thwarted by struggling parents who needed the extra income.) A state of quasi-slavery existed where parents bound children to work, but child labor would not be squarely addressed until the Progressive Era.
Unions were generally hostile to women; men believed women shouldn’t work for wages because they undercut wage levels. Some separate women’s unions did exist, and they sought special legislation for female workers, etc. The International Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union led a massive strike against New York City sweatshops. Union leaders came from the middle class and were not militant, but insistent. In the 19th century no special concern existed over children or women doing hard work—they had always worked within the family on farms or in family businesses. By 1890 18% of the labor force consisted of children between the ages of ten and fifteen.
History Matters.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5571/
Surely we can agree there is a huge difference between dozens or hundreds of little kids slaving away in factories or coal mines, (which obviously should never be tolerated) and the kind of kids who want to mow lawns after school and that kind of thing, no?
I quite frankly agree that it is the Republican agenda to return the United States to a time where corporations determine your lives. Who on earth could ever hire a child in so many different places
OK, so we already have a job shortage. From a purely economic standpoint, flooding the market with more potential workers who do not have any standard of minimum wage is only going to lessen the chances of adults with families to support getting a chance at a job.
And then there’s the morality of this.
They want America to be a third world country.
They keep attacking our rights and the progressive things America stands for, things she is admired for, the world wide! They think America is great because their buddies can get rich here, not because there is equal opportunity for all. Education, etc. I am shocked each day by how blatant they are in their attacks. They ran on the economy and then as soon as they got into power they made it about taking rights away from Americans. “They hate us for our freedoms.” Yes, indeed.
I am seriously thinking of objecting to calling these people either conservatives or Republicans, which used to mean stuffy, culturally unimaginative, not too venturesome, but basically not malignant towards fellow Americans – Dwight Eisenhower, say, or Chuck Hagel. A Joseph McCarthy was an exception.
What we have now is a pack of bodysnatchers that has taken possession of the former stuffed shirt wing. What do we call them? Dissocialists? Snotzis? In any case, it is wrong to let them impersonate what was once a respected segment of American politics, even if not always by you or me.
There is no rational reason for any thinking person to vote for the Party of No. Every day they say or do something that reveals their desire to reverse the progress that movements of the past have provided in order to level the playing field. If their shameful words and actions don’t motivate people to get out and vote them out of office at the first opportunity, I wonder what will.
Later…K! 🙄
The REAL reason they want to repeal child labor laws is so the Corps can come back, pay for legislation to also repeal any laws against minors not operating machinery, then fire all of the adult workers and hire kids in their place at the lowest possible wage and then say “See America!!! we brought the jobs back!!! told ya so!!”
Disclaimer:
Just kiddin….hahahahaha
Republicans have been going after workers rights for years. Look at the attack on unions, minimum wage laws and now child labor laws. My first question would be why this is so surprising to anybody??!!